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Software Search to arrive at most desirable options

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Description

Currently the Software Search and or Webpin results in a plethora of choices, most of which are less than desirable.
Ideally, search results should First offer the most stable and or suitable packages.
For example. If a user comes along and searches for 'VLC'
They are offered a host of unstable options. Everyone knows that 'VLC' should come from Packman. If we can't refer directly to Packman, it should be possible to link to a multi-media giuide.

I'm going to guess this could be difficult. But it must be possible to flag searches by keywords to redirect to the most likely solution, but with an option to continue to search anyway.

User benefit:

Avoid new user use of unstable or unsuitable repos.

We should be directing to the most suitable or most likely suitable solution. At the moment it's very random.

Relations

Testcase

Open here:
http://software.opensuse.org/search
and search: vlc

Discussion


icons/user_comment.png T. S. wrote: (7 years ago)

I already thought of adding notifications based on keywords that point to the right download pages for example packman, nvidia etc.

icons/user_comment.png T. S. wrote: (7 years ago)

We added some default notifications now for "nvidia", "broadcom", "google earth". Which were the most failing searches according to the logs.
Could you provide more helping texts for specific search terms?

icons/user_comment.png M. M. wrote: (7 years ago)

This is great! But could you consider moving the message below the search box, so that it appears close to the regular results? Maybe it's just me, but it took me a while until I figured I have to look above for it.

icons/user_comment.png C. F. wrote: (7 years ago)

Thomas. Thanks for the feedback. But before we address this any further.Please confirm -
Which is the preferable search option:
1: http://software.opensuse.org/search%3Cbr/%3E
2: http://packages.opensuse-community.org/
For example you mention 'broadcom'
But the results in webpin gives a search result
But software.opensuse shows no results - only a rather un-obvious hint to packman at the top of the page. IMO, that packman link needs flashing lights on it.
A search for 'ffmpeg' in the two search pages offers differing results. But again I suggest it point to Packman in the first instance.
'mplayer' the same issue

I need not go on.
In fact webpin offers the better results in most cases.

icons/user_comment.png M. S. wrote: (7 years ago)

And should openSUSE:Tumbleweed not be a separate option?
Nowadays I get packages form Tumbleweed if I search on software.opensuse.org after choosing 11.3.
Example:
http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=Mozillafirefox&baseproject=openSUSE%3A11.3&lang=en&exclude_filter=home%3A&exclude_debug=true

icons/user_comment.png C. F. wrote: (7 years ago)

Martin,

This is a fine comment and serves to illustrate my whole point. ATM it seems like the search is trawling over everything and not filtering the results (maybe it can't)
I have a sneaking suspicion that a more accurate result will only be possible with a complete rebuild of the directory structure of OBS (I could be wrong though)
But with webpin and software-search both returning different results, someone needs to decide which search we should use. My guess is that 'Software-Search' has the recommendation, but in reality, 'Webpin' usually turns up the more correct results.

icons/user_comment.png C. Y. wrote: (7 years ago)

The use or non-use of packages and the ordering of results should depend on repository priorities. If it is different right now, it is a bug. (Unknown repositories can have priorities 200+
N , where the value of
N is decided and provided by the community.)

icons/user_comment.png M. S. wrote: (7 years ago)

Thanks Christopher for letting me understand that Software Search a bit more.

Maybe the default Update repositories could be added (with the most prior priority like 10). This would also be a nice option if a new or not so experienced user does not know anything of YaST>Software Manager or just follows the given link in the wiki articles to the Software Search.

Compare:

http://en.opensuse.org/Opera

"Download for openSUSE:

"

gives for 11.3 ->
opera-10.10-1.2.i586.rpm and so on

The best result for a not experienced user (and the standard to refer to for a more experienced user) should in my view be from the standard
Update repository like

opera-11.01-1.2.1.i586.rpm and so on
with a corresponding YMP file.

icons/user_comment.png M. S. wrote: (6 years ago)

Ping:

[opensuse-buildservice] Reworking the software search started at Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:05:35 +0100

[opensuse-buildservice] Reworking the software search, part II stared at Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:41:26 +0100

I have not jet read it all but there are discussion about and tests revamping the software search. So who is interested in this feature might be interested in the discussion on the mailing list, too.

Regards
Martin

icons/user_comment.png C. F. wrote: (6 years ago)

Yes Martin
I see that too.
Hopefully we'll see some improvement.

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