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run pulseaudio server with 'flat-volumes=no'

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I listen to music while writing... and every single time I change songs a
hilariously loud POP is almost killing my ears. This is annoying and painful.
What's also annoying is that with 'flat-volumes = yes' the master volume is
changed to the loudest individual stream. If a rogue application should choose
to up the volume, my ears get fried (headphones !)
Personally I think the purpose of having a master volume slider is to limit the
max volume to avoid this kind of crap, which is totally nullified by
'flat-volumes = yes' !
Proposal: use 'flat-volumes = no' as the default in '/etc/pulse/daemon.conf'. I
think the user is clever enough to handle the volume sliders himself. And only
because Vista or W7 fiddles with the master volume in this _sick_ way, we don't
need that as well.
Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. play a song
2. increase the volume for the app. using pavucontrol or with the app. itself
3. master volume is pushed up as well
Expected Results:
The user should be the _only_ one messing with MASTER VOLUME.

User benefit:

With 'flat-volumes=yes' it is possible to get permanent hearing damage if unexpected volume surges are forced into the user's ears! Again with this feature enabled _any_ application that uses pulseaudio can set the master volume to 100%. That might be tolerable with a stereo system with a manual volume knob, but on a laptop + headphones this is close to a criminal assault.


icons/user_comment.png R. L. wrote: (6 years ago)

Never had this problem myself, but it is an easy fix and should be included.

icons/user_comment.png C. O. wrote: (6 years ago)

why is this feature for openSUSE-11.4 and not for 12.1?
why is this a feature and not a _bug_ report?

and for the W7 reference if i turn down the master volume and turn up the volume in iTunes, it does not affect the master volume at all...

icons/user_comment.png r. s. wrote: (6 years ago)

Now you guys are pulling my leg, aren't you.
a) why is this (still) for 11.4...
because it is present since 11.4 and nobody did give a friggin' damn about it.
b) why is this not a bug report...
IT IS! for 11.3... ( https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=642978 )
And why am I writing here?
Because some dude told me this: "Please discuss on openFATE"
Seriously, I wonder why I even write bug reports anymore... Does anybody even care about stuff like this?

c) OK, maybe W7 doesn't suck as much as Vista.

icons/user_comment.png r. s. wrote: (6 years ago)

I've filed a bug against 12.1

If I'm _again_ told to discuss it here, I will switch to Ubuntu and burn every single openSUSE medium I can find.

icons/user_comment.png S. R. wrote: (6 years ago)

See the comments in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=718728 and http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/949 for reasons to keep flat-volumes enabled.

icons/user_comment.png A. A. wrote: (4 years ago)

Voted +1 on this. Posted to the opensuse ML and in this thread https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/494849-KMix-PulseAudio-Streams-and-Volume-Levels?p=2620912&posted=1#post2620912 . So far the majority also +1 this change, so maybe we'll get this feature in the next OpenSUSE release.

icons/user_comment.png D. B. wrote: (4 years ago)

I think an option in the "PulseAudio Configuration" dialog would be good for this also

icons/user_comment.png A. B. wrote: (4 years ago)

I am okay with this if it is an option that can be chosen from YaST or Kmix. It would make it much easier to change it if you dont like the default setting (whatever that may be)

icons/user_comment.png p. s. wrote: (4 years ago)

Yes, it should be default and should be switchable by the PulseAudio Volume Control module

icons/user_comment.png S. K. wrote: (3 years ago)

Score is +45 and it's rejected. In OpenFate the fate is so open, you guys. But hey, we apparently need compatibility with Windows, to be bloated and broken by design.

icons/user_comment.png C. B. wrote: (2 years ago)

After today's Tumbleweed update:

# rpm -q --changelog pulseaudio | head -n3
* Mi Feb 24 2016 hguo [at] suse.com
- Disable flat-volumes by default with config disable_flat_volumes.conf
Remedy for Fate #
310668 .

So it seems this was finally fixed :-)

Last change: 18 months ago
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