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Hackweek V
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openSUSE-11.2
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openSUSE-11.3
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openSUSE-11.4
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Description

would be good, that at the time of installation opensuse, ask what you want to install, like a template, without having to go to edit to add software.
System installation tweak with special packages, performance and settings

for example

  • Office: max performance for OpenOffice, KOffice Evolution …
  • Laptop: Wifi Tool, Batterie saving, …
  • Webserver: minimal system performance, no many tool, apache ….
  • Linux Home Server: Webserver to configuation, special packages, samba, router, server, ...
  • Terminalserver: max performance, nx …
  • MTA Server: postfix all other packages clamav, avais-d…
  • SUPER SuSe: MAX performace an no many software
  • minimal Server: core packages, minimal X11, full networking (i.e. nfs, ssh, dhcp), minimal desktop (kde, gnome or xfce), with freenx to facilitate remote GUI admin, but the absolute smallest diskspace. Good for DataCenter server installs.
  • and other Category installations…
developer install

Discussion


icons/user_comment.png C. R. wrote: (8 years ago)

good idea
System installation tweak with special packages, performance and settings
for example:
* Office: max performance for OpenOffice, KOffice Evolution …
* Laptop: Wifi Tool, Batterie saving, …
* Webserver: minimal system performance, no many tool, apache ….
* Linux Home Server: Webserver to configuation, special packages, samba, router, server, ...
* Terminalserver: max performance, nx …
* MTA Server: postfix all other packages clamav, avais-d…
* SUPER SuSe: MAX performace an no many software
* Minimal Server: core packages, minimal X11, full networking (i.e. nfs, ssh, dhcp), minimal desktop (kde, gnome or xfce), with freenx to facilitate remote GUI admin, but the absolute smallest diskspace. Good for DataCenter server installs.
* and other Category installations…

icons/user_comment.png R. M. wrote: (8 years ago)

Discussion in this thread has same topic:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00233.html

The benefits of proposed storage for user package selection and configuration files are many:

  • Streamline package management. When user wants more then one selection, all YaST has to provide is to merge few of them, or to extract parts that belong to unwanted.
  • Streamline process of user contribution to openSUSE in this area. This will end discussions what to include in default installation, which can be cut down to fewer basic desktop components and then user can import selection with few clicks.
  • Reuse experience of experts in different fields. They know what they need and what application is better for the particular purpose. It will be possible to create specialized selections that need few tweaks to come close to user wishes.
  • Developers can offer during installation few of popular package selections. What is popular can be found from download logs on server that will offer this.
There is few questions to answer:
  • What else can be added as validation of package selections beside downloads? Five star system, for instance.
  • How to correct mistakes?
  • How to prevent malicious file to land on server?
  • How to motivate users to contribute?
  • Are there ready to go solutions, that we can reuse?

icons/user_comment.png A. J. wrote: (8 years ago)

I fear this gets rather complicated but let's evaluate it a bit.

icons/user_comment.png R. D. wrote: (7 years ago)

Debian Install (least expert version) has various "typical" use scenarios, with software selection based on those.  These are similar to the broad pattern categories in YaST Software Manager.

I don't think changing configuration settings for performance is a good idea.  The reason is that it is liable to explode the number of configurations that need testing.  If someone decides to tweak something like "echo 100 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness" or "put /etc/stab entries barriers=0", and it exposes a bug, it is an isolated change and obvious.

Asking volunteer test effort to try Web Server, Terminal Server, Home Server and Desktop, rather than taking & customising a core default system appears unrealistic.

Finally in long run, as the kernel changes, what is a good idea for one release, becomes unecessary or counter productive in later releases.  Creating code to do the tweaking is causing a maintenance burden.  Example, 2.6.31 now enables relatime by default with 24 hour daily update tweak.  Any past tweaks for "noatime" behaviour would now be dubious, and need discussing.

icons/user_comment.png O. R. wrote: (7 years ago)

I recall how back in 2000 RedHat asked similar question during installation. Mandrake efforts improved automatic hardware detection & configuration so much, that it was done away with. I don't see point in this, but the option of installing or removing additional software during DVD install should be better presented.

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