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Yast as a Linux learning tool

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openSUSE-11.1
Rejected
openSUSE-11.2
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openSUSE-11.3
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openSUSE-11.4
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Description

Hi All !

I Have very good new idea: converting Yast into a Linux learning tool.

This is very simple to achieve: Yast must show the commands it
executes and files it modifies, in a nice GUI dialog.

It will allow all kinds of Linux users understand how things really work.
Enable learn new things or remind how old-but-forgotten things work for seasoned people.

Great, isn't it ?

P.S. Jay Vollmer recommends, that among the commands that Yast shows as it executing, it should also recommend "man pages" for the relevant underlying commands.

--
-Alexey Eromenko "Technologov", 29.jul.2008.

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icons/user_comment.png A. E. wrote: (9 years ago)

Rajko M. wrote:

If one wants to see what is gong on in background, than look at logs in
realtime. There is console (Konsole) and command tail. Run as root:

tail -f /var/log/YaST2/y2log

and then start YaST and play with.

--
-Alexey Eromenko "Technologov", 29.jul.2008.

icons/user_comment.png J. H. wrote: (9 years ago)

Sounds like a great way for new users to learn more about what's under the hood. Or, what's under the bonnet, for the Brits.

icons/user_comment.png C. H. wrote: (9 years ago)

Moving to maintainers to decide.

icons/user_comment.png F. L. wrote: (9 years ago)

It is kinda late for 11.1, but it is an idea worth pursuing.

icons/user_comment.png M. L. wrote: (9 years ago)

agreeing with Federico this might be to late for 11.1 but should be accomplished with 11.2

icons/user_comment.png S. V. wrote: (9 years ago)

What we will have for 11.1 is the infrastructure for YaST modules to write this information into /var/log/YaST2/y2changes log file. So far, no YaST module has support for this, but it can be added gradually. Thus, postponing for 11.2.

icons/user_comment.png F. L. wrote: (9 years ago)

At engineering's discretion, we can start working on this.

icons/user_comment.png B. N. wrote: (7 years ago)

I believe that YaST is a great tool to provide a level of abstraction between a user who doesn't care what files need to be edited to change things; however, a user wishing to become more knowledgeable about how GNU/Linux works would do better to read about it.

icons/user_comment.png s. s. wrote: (7 years ago)

Its the way SMIT in AIX works...

Im really not so sure its good idea.

icons/user_comment.png G. N. wrote: (7 years ago)

It seems a useful addition to me... Beside the educational aspect the trasparancy of it could win a lot of appreciation. Being able to see what YaST is doing would increase the sense of control, not in the least for admins who are moreĀ  familiar with other distro's.

icons/user_comment.png R. L. wrote: (7 years ago)

Just add an expandable window to show the console output. Great idea I think. Man pages aren't necessary since man pages are very simple to access any way. This would also solve the request for more verbosity.

icons/user_comment.png G. N. wrote: (6 years ago)

Though only covering the "modified files" aspect of this feature request, snapper could play a role here.

By making examining of the changes of files and their content initiated by YaST possible, Snapper would definitely be an aid in helping people to learn YaST. So, Snapper, besides its other significant merits, should be also "marketed" as such.

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